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For Episode 12, a full six-man group of Adam Warwas, Austin Belisle, BJ Reidell, Brett Anderson, Drew Mahowald and Sam Neumann discuss Teddy Bridgewater’s current and future financial standing with the Minnesota Vikings, the team’s handling of the No. 84 and whether (when) Randy Moss’s number should be enshrined in purple history as well as a rather serious regarding fans engagement with players on social media stemming from comments made by Samantha Ponder — NFL sideline reporter and wife to former Viking signal-caller Christian Ponder — in an interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
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IMHO lost in all this is the quality time #5 is getting in meeting times and watching #8 and Pat interacting on and off the field ... HUGE EXPERIENCE ... also not beyond the realm of thought #8 does not need to brake the bank in the future to stay with a quality contender
#22 - Paul Krause ... holds the record for interceptions 40+ yrs and counting ... and Hall of Famer
I think we need to stop retiring numbers altogether. We have already retired 10 (Tarkenton), 53 (Tingelhoff), 70 (Marshall), 77 (Stringer), 80 (Carter) & 88 (Page). If you envision a bright future full of great Viking players you have to stop the madness somewhere or you will run out, literally. Moss didn’t even feel a strong connection to 84. If it weren’t for 88 already being retired, that would have been Moss’s # at this level, and how cool would that have been? 84 in Minny & S.F., 18 in Oakland (he made NO effort to get 84 despite it being something that could easily have been negotiated there at the time) and 81 in NE. Also, here’s something cool I just read: The Steelers have retired a total of 2 numbers EVER: 70 (Ernie Stautner) and 75 (Joe Greene) and that’s it. Imagine what the list would look like if they retired every # of every great Hall of Fame Steeler who played in the 70s alone? Not to mention Bettis, Woodson etc. They have other ways of honoring their greats and they do a good job of it. It’s not that I don’t think Moss is as good as some of the Vikings greats listed above or that he doesn’t deserve every honor the Vikings have to grant him, I do. Get homey up in the ring of honor post haste! I just hate retiring numbers. I like that guys like Hodges get into to the idea of living up to the past and honoring legacy numbers. I think that’s the most fun AND pragmatic way to treat roster numbers in the future. And don’t even get me going on 28. Just my take…
Wow guys! Thanks for the shout-out. Above is the comment from About the Labor #64 so people don't have to go digging for it. Just for the record, I only feel strongly that we should perhaps not feel SO strongly about this topic. I'm a little older than you guys so Randy wasn't the player that really flicked my Viking fan switch, but I loved him and his game. I don't think he changed the game (he didn't usher in a new-era or Randy Moss's I mean) so much as he played WR better and more gracefully than anybody before or since. I won't be protesting the day they that decide to retire 84. I just feel that that specific thing happening isn't a deal breaker for honoring Randy Moss. His place in our ring of honor is assured and shouldn't be dependent on him getting in the hall. But even if 84 never gets retired, that's not necessarily a sign of disrespect to me either. Cheers!
War - No sir, thank you for the great take! I really enjoyed thinking over your comment, and your thorough argument definitely influenced my perception ... which isn't exactly a great prize, but hopefully it counts for something! — BJ Reidell