NFL Draft 2014

The Draft is Over: Vikings UDFA Wishlist and Tracker

The 2014 NFL Draft is over, but the talent acquisition phase is by no means done. Teams have been on the phone with their favorite priority free agents since the sixth round began, and some deals have already been hammered out. There are a number of players that could easily make the roster as depth players and eventually starters that the Minnesota Vikings would do themselves well by targeting. Of course a number of talented players fell off boards entirely due to off-field concerns, and they likely won’t be targeted by Minnesota. Regardless, there’s still a lot of talent to be had.

Here are the UDFAs the Vikings have picked up so far, keeping in mind that some may not be signed to contracts, but invited to the minicamp tryouts (hard to filter information):

A.C. Leonard, TE Tennessee State

An incredible pickup, AC Leonard was one of the most athletic tight ends available in the draft. I saw him on a number of Top 100 boards, and that’s not too far off. Leonard moves like a player 50 pounds lighter when in routes and his gliding in the passing game gives him an unfair advantage against some of the FCS players he abused. He has a great release off the line and can win underneath or up the seam. He beat press coverage regularly, though could show some technique work there. His agility is surprising as well. He’s not the greatest in-line blocker but does show some flashes in space. There are very few athletic equals at tight end, and he even outperformed Eric Ebron at the combine. There are a number of off-field concerns for him and he was kicked off the Florida team.

Isame Faciane III, NT Florida International

Isame Faciane was a three-year starter at FIU with decent production but fantastic technique, especially for an undrafted free agent. While he didn’t put together the best measureables at his pro day, he plays with more on-field speed and strength than you’d expect. He anchors very well, even against double teams, and he’s less of a pass-rusher because of his burst. He has good leg drive and fights through blocks when need be, and he also moves well in small spaces, managing to redirect traffic and plug running lanes. Unfortunately, his size makes him a less-than-ideal nose tackle and he’ll have to put on weight to earn that role. If he was quicker, this would not be much of an issue, but his reaction time exceeds his acceleration. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him beat out a player like Tom Johnson to get on the roster, but I expect Faciane, whose DL coach at FIU is the Vikings’ current DL coach, to make the practice squad this year and make the squad proper next year, like Chase Baker did.

Zac Kerin, C Toledo

Kerin largely fell out of the draft due to a hamstring injury, but still has a number of things to work on. He anchored the NCAA’s best offensive line (or one of the best, if you don’t buy the strength of MAC defensive linemen), but he has the size, speed and strength to be an NFL offensive lineman—hitting all the benchmarks at 6’5″ 310 pounds and a 5.06 40-yard dash. He’s athletically capable, but not gifted enough to cover his technique issues. His struggles in the East-West Shrine game probably dropped him out of the draft entirely, but his handfighting already put him in trouble. While he’s generally solid in footwork, he still had issues holding run blocks and keeping defensive players off the ballcarrier. Further, he may be an interior player only because even though he was decent pulling as a center in Toledo, his lateral agility and balance weren’t generally NFL-caliber. He’s a very smart player with great awareness, but it remains to be seen if he has the technique or athletic skills to use it.

Dominique Williams, RB Wagner (report emailed to me from Shaun DePasquale at NFL Draft Diamonds)

Measured just under 5’9, and a stout 205 pounds at Wagner Pro Day. Although suffering from a nagging back injury, Williams still pulled off a 4.65 official 40 yard dash. Showed good strength with 19 bench press reps (1 more than the husky Lorenzo Taliaferro put up at the NFL Combine). On the field, rushed for over 4,400 yards and 42 touchdowns over his career. Saw a dip in production in senior year as teams keyed in on him alone with literally no threat of a passing game (Wagner QB’s combined for 7 touchdowns, 17 interceptions & completed only 48 % of their passes in 2013)… junior season Williams rushed for 1,328 yards with 13 touchdowns and averaged 5 yards per carry…sophomore year Williams rushed for 1,338 yards with 14 touchdowns and a 4.9 ypc average in a more balanced offense. Flashes game-breaking ability on tape, good cut-back ability, vision, balance and burst in the open field. Famously hurdled a defender vs. Bryant in 2012. Workhorse back in college that will break a big gainer if given enough carries. Has proven durable over the last 3 seasons as the team’s best and most game-planned player. Hard worker..driven individual with excellent character, absolutely no red flags. Will make a 53 man roster and prosper if given the right opportunity.

Pierce Burton, OT Ole Miss

The first thing you notice about Burton is his pad level, which is pretty high. He plays tackle like a guard, which is to say he pushes up instead of out, even when it would serve the team better to let the edge rusher overrun the play. He plays with strength and aggression, but I would like to see him initiate contact more at the second-level, as he often slows up and waits for the blocker to meet him. He does a good job moving opposing DL’s hands and does better against counter-moves than you might think based off of your initial impression of him. Unfortunately, I think he doesn’t have a good understanding of where an offensive lineman may get attacked and gives up a lot of leverage that way. He also needs to read the opposing DL much better. His punch is great and he exhibits macro-awareness, for all of the micro-awareness he lacks, and picks up blitzers well. He also keeps his feet moving and likes to punish players, especially speed-rushers for getting at him. He has had, however, an excellent development curve at Ole Miss. For all that I like about him (mostly as a guard prospect, where I think he switches to), I don’t think he makes the practice squad.

Kain Colter, WR Northwestern

A dual-threat quarterback whose height and passing skills weren’t quite up to NFL par and took some snaps at receiver with Northwestern. Perhaps best known for leading the union fight against the NCAA, Colter showed surprising receiver ability at the Senior Bowl. He plays with soft hands and his route-running is shocking if nothing else, with more-than-adequate precision. I’m not sure he can handle NFL physicality, but he may be one of the better QB-to-WR converts we’ve seen in recent years. Colter shouldn’t be able to beat out Lora for a spot on the roster and I’m not sure he’ll have the kind of developmental intrigue of Rodney Smith or Adam Theilen to get him a spot on the roster or practice squad.

Jake Snyder, ER Virginia

Jake Snyder is a player that I like that could have been drafted in the seventh round in a more traditionally thin edge rusher class, and the truth is I think he’s better than some of the players at his position who were drafted. His awareness and bend are at NFL level and I like his initial speed, though he hurts himself with an average-to-poor first step (the NFL places and outsized importance on this, so it’s not a huge surprise he went undrafted). He generally rushes with two moves: a swim move and a speed rush, though he also has a bull rush that could be effective with more teaching. He effectively twists to the inside and also understands force/redirection principles, even though he occasionally overruns his rush. Snyder also makes sure to maintain run discipline and is effective in contain. He has the size and strength to compete, but unless he improves his reaction time he could wallow on the short end of the roster or the practice squad.

Austin Wentworth, OT Fresno State

Perhaps the only offensive lineman of worth on the Fresno State team, Wentworth is likely swing depth. He has had issues with edge rushers and wasn’t asked to hold blocks for long. That said, he’s very athletic and played in a high-octane offense with a lot of snaps. He will likely feature at OG with OT capability. Interestingly, he looks like he can add more weight on, but came in at 314 pounds at his Pro Day. Reasonably quick for a guard, he will get buy on his strength, which is fine for a guard convert. If the Vikings don’t take a chance on him (there’s a lot of quality OL talent in camp), someone else will. I expect this to happen, and he won’t clear waivers.

Tyler Scott, ER Northwestern

Underized as an edge rusher, Scott doesn’t have the strength to take on the 4-3 defensive end role and operate against NFL-sized offensive lineman. That said, Scott has a reputation as a hard worker and does a number of the smaller things well, from technique to play recognition. He keeps his feet moving but has been proven to be overpowered by the bigger OL in the B1G. Further, his good speed will be drowned out once he does gain weight (he’s at 257 pounds, and should add about 20 pounds more). He doesn’t have the instinct on the field that is necessary to make big waves in the NFL and he’s a little slow off the snap. The first game I watched him in was against Ohio State, whose right tackle is bad—he should have done far better. I don’t see him cracking the roster.

Erik Lora, WR Eastern Illinois

In my opinion, the more talented of the two draftable players from EIU because of Garoppolo’s pressure issues, Lora was a big driving force of the Panthers offense. He’s very productive and should be a slot receiver on the next level, and in particular has good intuition for underneath routes. He doesn’t have the size or speed to be a true deep threat but can present cheap yardage options. His short area quickness should serve him well. What’s great about Lora is that he’s one of the few small-school prospects that seems ready to play at the next level both from a technique and size perspective (he’s short at 5’10” and has small arms, but is 200 pounds). I dislike that he has to go up against Jennings and Wright for a slot spot, but I think he’s better than the other receivers besides Simpson and should make the roster at the 5th WR spot.

Kenny Guiton, QB Ohio State – NOT CONFIRMED/TRYOUT INVITE Accepted Invite with Bills

Stuck behind Braxton Miller at OSU, Guiton’s small showing in relief this last year was impressive. He has great arm strength and decent intuition for placing the ball. Very fast, he may not necessarily end up being signed as a quarterback for the Vikings. He was a zone-read QB that thrived on the simplicity of his offense and will take some time to develop if he makes the roster.

Antonio Richardson, OT Tennessee

FANTASTIC pickup. Size/Weight prototype, with incredible length, too. He has strength and good foot movement, and has fantastic run blocking ability. Shocking agility for his size and he tends to play with balance. There are technique issues as well as recognition issues regarding savvy DEs. He doesn’t win the second-effort battle enough, but the rate at which he wins on first contact is incredible. A strong punch and quick feet should have gotten him drafted. Some conditioning issues and issues against speed rushers, as well. Richardson fell out of the draft due to knee issues. At the Medal of Honor Bowl, Scott Carasik reported that the knee issues were “arthritic knees,” which implies he may only last a few years in the NFL, while Walter Football reports that the issues are microfracture problems in the knee, which can be repaired and could lead to a long-term career. He should make the squad despite being a UDFA.

Rakim Cox, ER Villanova

Cox’s first moment catching attention of mainstream scouts might be a good performance in the NFLPA bowl, but he had a very good season at Villanova. He’s a speed rusher that relies on bend around the edge and a good get-off at the snap, which he usually has. All the better, he tested as a speedy guy as well, running an impressive 1.63 10-yard split. His hand technique is OK and he knows how to use his arms to create leverage, but there’s a bit of a worry about his arm length (32″) and weight (160), but the second of those can be fixed in short order. When Villanova was in a 4-3, he did well enough and he was a big part in stopping Towson RB Terrance West, who had his worst FCS outing against Villanova. He’s reputed to have a high football IQ, but there’s a small scheme change for him to overcome as he comes from a 3-3-5 stack. Cox is extremely coachable and comes highly recommended from the Villanova staff. With some strength to add and leverage issues to fix, he could be a developmental player for now, and may be on the outside looking in for a practice squad invite.

Matt Hall, OT Bellhaven

Matt Hall is a massive person, 6’9″ 323 pounds, with long arms, and he benched 32 reps. He’s mostly a big-bodied run blocker, who has to answer questions about his ability to stop the speed rush, and even with his massive size may be asked to kick inside. He dominated lower competition when at Bellhaven with head coach and legend Hal Mumme, as you’d expect but comes in with some concerns. He transferred to Ole Miss from Arkansas in 2010, then transferred to NAIA school Belhaven after being arrested for DUI, simple assault, domestic violence, and other charges. He was a starter at Ole Miss to his credit. His physical traits make him an interesting long-term prospect. Should he show requisite quickness in camp, he’s a lock to make the practice squad.

Conor Boffeli, OG Iowa

Boffeli is listed as a guard (and that’s what he played his senior year at Iowa), but has experience at both center and guard and is probably a swing option—he made a lot of line/protection calls and was known at Iowa to be a leader on the line. Like most centers, he’s an intelligent player both before and after the snap, and plays with awareness in space. Unfortunately he doesn’t play with an abundance of strength and is a little undersized compared to the other Vikings guards (he weighed 298 at the Combine), though both added weight after entering the NFL. Boffeli has a lot of speed for a guard and fits zone schemes, which the Vikings will probably run for a lot of their snaps.

Donte Foster, WR Ohio

A possession receiver prototype that needs to add size in order to fully fulfill that role in the NFL. He has decent height but good length and soft hands. A good route-runner with an ability to box out defensive backs, he isn’t really built to handle the physical game that comes with his role (at his pro day, he weighed in at 188). Nevertheless, his good leaping ability and tracking should give him the advantages he needs to keep getting chances in the NFL, and he’s always been able to set up defensive backs to create additional space. He is a practice squad candidate in my eyes.

Travis Partridge, QB Southwest Missouri State (report emailed to me from Shaun DePasquale at NFL Draft Diamonds)

Measured in at a stout 6’3.4, 237 pounds and ran a 4.81 40 yard dash, and excellent time for a big boy like Partridge. Dual-threat QB …3 year starter, team leader and coach’s son whom commanded respect and put team on his back …passed for 6,609 yards, 68 touchdowns & 32 interception, added 1,501 rushing yards & 36 touchdowns on the ground over the past 3 seasons. Peaked as a junior in 2012 with 2,706 passing yards, 30 touchdowns & 12 interceptions, in addition to 451 yards rushing & 18 rushing touchdowns. Production & accuracy did drop in 2013, perhaps in part to losing key contributors like RB Michael Hill (although dynamic sophomore Raphael Spencer did step up in his place) .. on tape Partridge displays the ability to operate both inside & outside the pocket, making quick decisions, accurate short/intermediate throws as well as gaudy downfield throws with ease…not afraid to take off for gifted yards & not afraid to take a hit for the extra yard…reminds this writer of Tony Romo in style…a big ball of clay with excellent intangibles to work with…if a team sticks with Partridge & devotes time into coaching him up, he is well-capable of landing on the practice squad and at least developing into a capable back-up. One of this writer’s favorite small-school QB’s in the 2014 class.

Chris Schaudt, ER Minnesota State-Mankato – TRYOUT INVITE
Jon Wolf,
QB Minnesota State-Mankato –TRYOUT INVITE
Dallas Bollema,
John Oyloe
, ER University of Mary – TRYOUT INVITE
Seth Mathis
Jon Caspers
, OG Northern State – TRYOUT INVITE
Michael Walker
, RB St. Cloud State – TRYOUT INVITE
Jeremy Reierson
, TE Minnesota-Duluth – TRYOUT INVITE
Mitch Hallstrom

Below the jump are potential targets


Colt Lyerla, TE Oregon and Isaiah Crowell, RB Alabama State are both probably the most talented players in the draft at their positions, but Minnesota probably never even attempted to contact either of them because of off-field concerns. Lyerla and Crowell both reportedly are difficult to work with in practice (with Lyerla openly refusing to listen to coaches and pushing back) and both had to leave their teams—Lyerla mutually and Crowell because he was kicked off a Georgia squad after winning SEC Freshman of the Year. Lyerla was arrested for cocaine possession, to boot.  Christian Jones, OB/ER Florida State is likely off the board for similar reasons, testing positive at the Combine and having other off-field issues with the Seminoles.

Here are some other targets to watch out for:

Shayne Skov, MB Stanford Signed with the 49ers

Skov is a smart, instinctive linebacker that acts as a team leader and can play zone coverage extremely well. He’s a good blitzer and fantastic run stopper. He needs work in man coverage and is an average athlete whose aggressiveness causes him to overrun. Massive injury concerns.

Jackson Jeffcoat, ER Texas Signed with Seattle

Jeffcoat has prototypical length, but is undersized for a position as a 4-3 pass-rusher. Nevertheless, his skills certainly are worth a look. He hasn’t been able to translate his athletic talent into onfield athleticism, but the tools are there. He has active hands, a lot of effort and knows how to use his frame to his advantage. Poor take-on vs. runs, but could be solved with adding more weight.

James Gayle, ER Virginia Tech Signed with the Titans

I love this player, and I think he should have been drafted on Day 2. he has fantastic height and length for the position, and good length, too. He plays with explosion and knows how to convert speed to power. Good flexibility and a strong speed rush helps him get to the QB and he is fantastic in pursuit. He can win on the outside or inside of an offensive tackle and has good pad level. He needs to play the mental game better and has some run discipline issues, but he is an excellent player that deserves a roster spot, much less a camp invite.

Zach Kerr, NT Delaware Signed with the Colts

Brandon Coleman, SE Rutgers Signed with the Saints

Tall, tall receiver, who has the weight to push people around, too. He has long arms and should be a red zone nightmare. He knows how to box people out and he can combine his size with athletic talent. He’s very good at tracking the deep ball and his stride shows up with more on-field speed than track speed. He needs help as a route-runner, but he has a very good intuition against zones and knows how to create space. He doesn’t use all of his strength yet but mostly should focus on how to sink in routes, then learn how to overpower CBs.

Brett Smith, QB Wyoming Signed with the Buccaneers

Rashaad Reynolds, CB Oregon State Signed with the Jaguars

Fantastic athlete on film with great agility, COD and straightline speed, as well as good transition and backpedal. He has excelletn instincts and has played in a variety of coverages. Will occasionally get caught up when against a very, very quick receiver but has excellent physicality. Size concerns.

Antonio Richardson, OT Tennessee – SIGNED AS A VIKING

Size/Weight prototype, with incredible length, too. He has strength and good foot movement, and has fantastic run blocking ability. Shocking agility for his size and he tends to play with balance. There are technique issues as well as recognition issues regarding savvy DEs. He doesn’t win the second-effort battle enough, but the rate at which he wins on first contact is incredible. A strong punch and quick feet should have gotten him drafted. Some conditioning issues and issues against speed rushers, as well.

Shaquil Barrett, ER Colorado State Signed with the Broncos

Ethan Westbrooks, ER West Texas A&M Signed with the Rams

Remember the last undrafted pass rusher from West Texas A&M the Vikings signed? He’s in the Hall of Fame. Unlike John Randle, Westbrooks rushes from the edge instead of inside, but he shows a lot of talent. A physically dominant player from both a size perspective, he shows good speed in bursts to be a devastating player in subpackages, but will require a season (or even two) of experience before he sees real snaps. He has pad level issues, very few pass-rush moves, an inconsistent motor and poor gap discipline. But he has flashed smart play and has great balance.

Deandre Coleman, 5T California Signed with the Jaguars

Perhaps best in a 3-4 as a DE, Coleman can still provide value to the Vikings as a nose tackle. He’s generally a two-gap player because of his length, but the fact that he can hold double teams and stuff the run is intriguing. He moves well for his size, has long arms, and can walk offensive linemen into the quarterback or move them off their spot. He doesn’t win the handfighting bottle as often as you’d like and he’s not a sudden player, but as a two-down player has potential.

Kenny Ladler, FS Vanderbilt Signed with the Bills

Ryan Groy, IL Wisconsin Signed with the Bears

Marcus Williams, CB NDSU Signed with the Texans

Gator Hoskins, FB Marshall Signed with the Dolphins

Gabe Ikard, IL Oklahoma Signed with the Titans

Max Bullough, MB Michigan State Signed with the Raiders

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    1. I’m surprised about the QB’s, Guyton’s the only guy we’ve flagged, none signed. Maybe they think MBT will be released by the 49ers soon.

  1. True but both corners are undersized and I can’t see them becoming contributors. Are you saying you think we filled our CB needs?

  2. And the line backer we drafted is also undersized and may end up at safety. Again I don’t think we filled either of the CB or LB needs in this draft.

    1. Barr is a linebacker that can play DE or linebacker. Zimmer said he is going to use him at linebacker.

  3. Niether of the corners we drafted does anything for me nor does Watts. I would argue CB and LB are still our most significant needs.

    1. Not. Vikes have two many corner and linebacker right now. Summers defense uses linebacker differently. All three linebackers are interchange able. Corner we are fine. D-line and Summers defense will help the corners.

  4. 0 school pairs. Not a one. Yet he did hold to 10 picks which is great, you spent time analyzing, you should know the types of guys who fit your staff and you should want to maximize your control over who you bring in. A lot of small school talent compared to previous drafts, good character across the board, which if you are going to skew one non-talent correlating variable that’s what you’d go with. Really happy about the guard, and I think overall they did what they needed to do in terms of meeting the minimum for depth in all position groups. Even if Bridgewater sits, Yankey makes me feel better about the offense, and the defense clearly got better. Crichton is exactly what I’d think of for Zimmer, a mean family guy. Now it’s coaching.

      1. I love Daniel Jeremiah, but his colleagues disagree with him. Also, Jeremiah is making a point about Yankey as a Round 2 prospect, not about his value in the fourth round.

  5. So in your mind because we drafted Barr we are set at linebacker, and you have concern about depth at this position? And we have solved our corner because of the two we drafted?

    1. I think we drafted 2 LBs both last year and this year, and brought Brinkley back. It’s not a strength on paper but we had no depth anywhere. These corners all have the same athletic makeup that our secondary guru looks for, I wasn’t expecting an all pro day 1 with us drafting a QB this year. The thing is they brought in 3 of them. Odds are good that something worthwhile comes out of it.

    2. Barr, Greenway( how is healthy, wasn’t last year), and Cole will most likely be the starters. Zimmer already said Brinkley is going to have a huge role in the linebacker core. Zimmer likes Brinkley. Zimmer also said he really likes what he sees in the two young guys Mauti and Hodges. Vikes also have Larry Dean, Lawrence, Manning and Watts. Vikes will only carry 6 or 7 linebackers. Also Griffen and Crichton can play linebacker in hybrid schemes. I trust Zimmer. And Zimmer’s defense uses linebackers differently.

      1. I agree about Greenway. Certainly a guy I want in the locker room and in the film room with the young players, and I think his health has been a factor that he’s played through. I also like Cole but I don’t give him any headway on the MLB spot. Like you said there are a lot of guys vying for roles in the LB core. I really like that our coordinator is a LB specialist.

        1. Thing is there really isn’t a true middle linebacker in Zimmer’s scheme. There is talk Greenway will end up in the middle after Barr settles in.

      1. That is what Brock kept saying. Maybe it was wishful thinking on his part. Interesting he is teamed up with Billy Turner though.

  6. WE currently have 10 CBs and 10 LBs on our roster with what has happened in FA,Draft,and guys from last year.We have new coaches with a new scheme that uses these guys differently.To say we have “no depth” is pretty silly IMO.

  7. Happy about the tight end and tackle prospects we added after the draft, huge depth help! You lean towards character in the draft because the issue guys will be there after the fact.

    I’m sure Arif will catch it but the RB profile is currently Cain Kolters. I’m sure you’re in scramble mode. Personally not high on Kolter, or the number of converts we are going with outside McKinnon who has already proven his utility.

  8. Per,here is the list of the 15 UDFAs we have signed
    AC Leonard TE Tennessee State
    Kain Coulter WR Northwestern
    Antonio Richardson OT Tennessee
    Zac Kerin OC Toledo
    Pierce Burton OT Mississippi
    Matt Hall OT Belhaven
    Austin Wentworth OG Fresno State
    Isame Faciane NT Florida International
    Dominique Williams HB Wagner
    Jake Snyder DE Virginia
    Erik Lora WR Eastern Illinois
    Tyler Scott DE Northwestern
    Donte Foster WR Ohio
    Rakim Cox DE Villanova
    Conor Boffeli OG Iowa

  9. This is about Lora WR……………..

    01/03/14 – 2013 ASSOCIATED PRESS FCS FIRST TEAM ALL-AMERICAN: WR Erik Lora, Eastern Illinois, Sr.,…Lora earned first team All-American honors for the second straight year becoming the first EIU player to accomplish that feat since Pete Catan did so in 1979 and 1980. Lora hauled in 123 passes for 1,544 yards and 19 touchdowns. His 123 receptions rank third on the FCS single season list and 13 shy of his FCS single season record set last season. Lora ended his career as the EIU and OVC leader in pass receptions and receiving yards. He owns the EIU and OVC single season records for receptions, receiving yards and touchdown receptions. He finished his career second on the FCS receptions chart. – Eastern Illinois football

  10. This is a lot bigger class than in previous years. Vikes must have been on the phone early.

  11. One of the interesting things about Barr and Crichton that tips Zimmers hand, a lot of forced fumbles. Very accurate with there hands. It’s what I loved about honeybadger.

  12. I was really, really hoping we could land Bryn Renner. Renner signed with the Broncos shortly after the draft. Manning was a big supporter of Renner and said some very good things about him. Would not be surprised to see Renner take over after Peyton. Kid you not.

    1. They should have just drafted him in the late rounds instead of yet another one of those players that will inevitably be one of the first players they cut at camp (see Everett Dawkins last year). Especially when considering Ponder has no future with this team beyond this year, and therefore, the Vikings will be looking for a third-string QB next year anyhow. Here’s a thought: How about get a head start on the process by cutting Ponder now and drafting a young, developmental QB like Renner, Fales or Murray in the late rounds and that way whoever they take will have an extra year to learn the offense? Does that make too much sense? It’s not like someone Peyton Manning shills for isn’t worth a late round pick.

      Tell ‘ya, sometimes Spielman has his head so far up his ass I mistake him for a contortionist.

      1. I don’t really know what point your trying to make here. Everett Dawkins was on our practice squad most of the year before getting signed to Dallas’ active roster. Same for Travis Bond. When a late round draft pick sticks with your team and is good enough to be signed to another teams active roster, that isn’t a black mark against the guy that drafted them.

        1. So you consider the pick a success because he’s on someone else’s roster? Who would have known that draft picks are deemed a success once they’re no longer on the team that drafted them? By that same logic, the Christian Ponder pick is going to become one hell of a successful pick come next year!

      2. XLEVITY,I think you are the one with your head stuck up his ass.Do you not understand roster management? To cut Ponder now would cost $3.2 million in dead money,and we get nothing for him.By keeping him around with a new coaching staff there is the opportunity to a) improve his play to a serviceable level to have him as a backup in the future,or b) improve his play so that we can get something for him in a trade.If it doesn’t work out well so be it,but if he is counting against the cap then may as well try to make something out of him.

    2. I am not surprised that Renner signed with the Broncos. Has long had a great relationship with Manning and the Manning family.

      1. Plus he had a better shot behind a 38 year old starter than a 21 year old 1st rd choice.

  13. Interesting with only Rudolph, Ford, and Reisner on the roster, they only picked up one tight end to look at, a UFA.

    1. Rudolph maybe gone after this year. Last year of contract and hasn’t played up to skill level. And the injuries. I hope Rudolph has a big year. He will have to step up.

  14. I’ve been searching the net for reasons David Yankey dropped so far in the draft.
    At one point Mayock had him as his #1 Guard, then POOF! completely off his list.
    Why did this kid dropped so far??

      1. I think I saw him rated pretty high AFTER the combine.
        Just weird that a guy that was thought to be a 1 or 2 round pick, fell all the way to the 5th.

        1. yeah, idk what it was. i saw a tweet about it maybe being his combine, slow. good for us, though

        2. I think a lot of the interior OL guys fell because the draft was so deep,and there was value to be had in positions like WR & CB.Gabe Jackson was highly rated also,and slipped down.

    1. He informed us in our media phone call to him that early in the process his agent informed him that he would go later than the media projections. Frankly, players need more agents like that.

      The issue seems to be his footwork. Regardless, it’s a massively good pick.

  15. sorry if I missed it…..has anyone asked rick to his face if he tried to get johnny at 22 or have all the interviews been soft, praising him for job well done…..or is it a no brainer that rick would never say…

    1. i’ve been waiting to see that asked of rick, too. i’m sure they’ll get around to it eventually. is it so damaging to just say that you had JM one spot higher on your QB position chart? jeez, these guys can’t be THAT sensitive, can they? i mean, JM did get drafted ahead of TB

    2. All I heard was that RS was trying to move up to the 22 pick. Who’s to say that he wasn’t thinking Teddy all the time?
      Far as I’m concerned, a ballsy move no matter which QB he picked. After the Ponder bust, it took some big ones to take a QB in the first. . .AGAIN.

      1. You know they weren’t trying to move up for Teddy because Cleveland didn’t take Teddy, they took Manziel. In other words, if the Vikings wanted Teddy so bad that they were willing to trade all the way up from #40 to #22, common sense tells us that they would have dialed up the teams picking directly in back of Cleveland in a continued effort to trade up once the Browns took Manziel; not sit there and wait until another team jumped them for Bridgewater.

        The confusing part of it all is why the Vikings didn’t just take Manziel at #8. It’s like Spielman preferred to give away valuable draft picks in a trade up later on rather than conserve the draft picks and still get their guy at #8. It makes no sense. But Barr was one of my personal favs, so whatever.

  16. They had TB in for 5 or 6 visits and TB had the sense that one way or another he was going to be a Viking. Manziel doesn’t fit this offense in any way and they showed nearly no interest in Manziel and publicly stated there are flags. Outside of Jay Glazier speculating that the Vikings were trying to move up to get Manziel there is nothing in the way of fact that suggests the Vikings had a higher grade on Manziel. I think it FAR more likely that we feared CLE was after TB. Norv offense is complicated and Manziel doesn’t fit the scheme whereasTBis a perfect fit. Believe w/e you want but I believe the Vikings got their man and had no intention of taking Manziel.

    1. Bridgewater is anything but a “perfect fit” for a Norv Turner Air Coryell offense that pushes the ball vertically. TB lacks arm strength to the degree that the further his passes go the less accurate they becaome. If Norv is going away from his featured style of offense to a more intermediate, dink-n-dunk game then T-Bridge makes perfect sense.

      Yes, there were more sources than Glazer that reported it. In fact, all the big names did (Rapoport, Schefter, La Canfora, Florio, et al.). Locally, Dan Barriero reported on his radio show that “a source at Winter Park” confirmed to him that they were in fact after Manziel, and as well, Paul Allen (Vikes VOX) reported that he believed it to be true.

      What is more, Spielman hasn’t denied it, so….

      1. Kurt Warner said his Vikings source, that the Vikings were moving up for Teddy. Dan Barriero will lie. He lied when with the Strib. He is in the media business and wants people to listen to his show. He is from Chicago and cares nothing about the Vikings. All he does is knock them most of the time. Kurt Warner also said multiple sources around the league knew the Vikings had Teddy as there first choice.

        1. So did Paul Allen lie also? Jay Glazer? Mike Florio? They all get together before the draft and decide to conspire against the Vikings just to piss you off, did they? You certainly have been taking a rather puerile and perhaps even a little unstable stance on this an altogether moot issue. Do you think counselling might help you?

          FYI, Rick Spielman was on Mark Rosen’s Sunday Night sports show and Rosie asked him point blank whether they tried to trade up for Manziel. Spielman essentially said that he’d like to “keep that in-house”. Considering he had no problem shooting down the Sam Bradford to Vikings rumor, most open-minded people would have little to no difficulty making the inference.

          1. This is quite the discussion. My interpretation: Spielman and Wilf liked Manziel. Norv Turner wanted Teddy Bridgewater.

            Every insider who reported on the trade worked off of either bit of information, knowing that the Vikings traded up for a quarterback.

            As it stands, I think the Vikings did attempt to trade up for Johnny Manziel, and post facto reports from generally reliable insiders like Paul Allen and Jay Glazer of scouts on the Vikings’ staff seems to be that the move was for Manziel. People like Kurt Warner probably knew that Norv Turner wanted Teddy and so reported that.

            I am glad that the Browns sniped the Vikings. The move to wait until pick 32 to trade up for Bridgewater was smart.

            1. That being the case, I’m glad that Spielman won’t be drafting any more QBs for the Vikings.

  17. how bout we just stick that story under the Who Gives A F*ck file? Has absolute zero impact on the Minnesota Vikings as it stands.

    1. Agreed over and done with. Time to move on and either cheer from the Vikings or not.

  18. You sure we don’t want to senselessly speculate any more?

    It does kill me, even if we pretend that Spielman DID favor Manziel over Bridgewater, why in the hell would he admit that? What could possibly be gained? When you pick up your prom date, do you tell her you really wanted to bring her sister, but she already had a date, so you settled for her as your little Silver Medal?

    That’d be smart.

  19. I also find this issue laughable. Had Manziel been so coveted we would have never traded down from 8. We would have traded up to get him. He would not have been passed by every team that needed a QB upgrade. Say the same of Bridgewater, but at some point the value outweighs the price.

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