Brett A. wrote:If Ponder is healthy and able to play, I think he should. Playing Webb sends the wrong message that Ponder is not our quarterback. We spent a first round pick on Ponder... it is much too soon to cast him aside (which is essentially what you would be doing by playing Webb over him Sunday if he's healthy). Ponder is a better Quarterback than Webb. He's made mistakes, sure. But, he is a rookie and has been put in to play for a time that doesn't even come close to having the pieces he needs around him to make him successful.
Webb is a spark, that much is true. But sparks die out quick. While I do think we need to find ways to utilize Webb, I do not think he is a starting quarterback who can lead us to a championship. I think [hope] Ponder is.
c.carterhof wrote:It is too soon to cast him aside. But I don't believe that's what you're doing by starting Webb. I would say it's more like telling Ponder that he has some competition.
Ponder doesn't have the pieces? But Webb does? What makes you so sure Webb is just a spark? How is starting just two games and coming in for what amounts to another game enough of a gauge to know? I'm not saying who I think is better, I just think it would be wise to let them battle it out. Doesn't matter who was picked higher.
You know your old pal Fragile loves you, but you are a crazy bastard. Freds thinks you are simply kidding about this whole thing. Right?
Can you name a hand full of times Denzel has said a negative thing about anyone? Coach Lez only says only positive things. Freds sites the below as exhibit A:
Coach Frazier when asked about Charles Mason:
"He's got a great level of intensity, really focused eyes, stylish hair and an X on his head to help him remained balanced and chicks dig him".
See what Freds' saying? Anything Denzel says about anyone (including Joe) should be discounted.
Keep him at backup, this talk of JJ as the long term answer for the Vike is just plain kooky!
Even if those long-term plans do hold true, Ponder is Frazier's quarterback to close the 2011 season.
And that's exactly how it should be in Minnesota.
Look, I understand the feeling amongst some regarding Webb. He's an electric athlete and there's a pretty good argument to be made that the offense has clicked better under Webb than Ponder.
Webb might even give the Vikings a better chance to win in their season finale against the Bears. I'm willing to go that far.
But there's no reason to give up on Ponder as the starting quarterback in Minnesota yet, and there's more reasons for that thinking than starting Webb right now.
Most of the Webb supporters are simply a prisoner of the moment. You see the magic he put together last Sunday and think, "Well, that just knocked the socks off what we've seen from Ponder."
You can't be so near-sighted. No one expected Ponder to come into Minnesota and save the day in his first season. Is the small sample from Ponder, who has had his moments, enough to close the door on his career in a Vikings uniform?
The Vikings have to let Ponder develop, and Frazier is sending a strong message to his team about that development. Any chance of the locker room being split on who is the starter ended with Frazier's announcement Wednesday.
This is Ponder's team. And it should be.
Webb is a fantastic backup quarterback, one that should be used in certain packages during each and every game.
However, Ponder is the quarterback who gives the Vikings the best chance at long-term success. Gadget quarterbacks don't survive.
Credit Leslie Frazier for keeping the future of the Vikings in mind instead of allowing himself to become a prisoner of the moment, which could have been a locker room divider heading into one of the most important offseasons in Vikings' history.
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