The Vikings are set to host Carolina this afternoon and I want to remind everyone interested to join us for a Live Chat during the action.

The inactives for today include recently acquired quarterback Josh Freeman, as Matt Cassel will remain the starter, with Christian Ponder playing the role of backup.

The other inactives today are:  Safety Mistral Raymond, Linebacker Gerald Hodges, Linebacker Audie Cole, Defensive Tackle Chase Baker, Defensive End Justin Trattou, and Guard Jeff Baca.

The Vikings are much healthier coming out of the bye and Chris Cook will be welcomed back into this struggling secondary as they prepare to face Cam Newton.

53 COMMENTS

  1. So, what’s the over/under on Cassel getting hurt and Ponder coming in to throw for 500 yds and 6 TD’s to make this QB situation really interesting?

  2. Crap, looks like we’re stuck with Billick again. Hope he gets the players names right.
    I think the team rallies behind AD and Cassel will be fine.

    • “I think the team rallies behind AD and Cassel will be fine.”
      Did you really say that Johnny? Really?

      Damn, in hindsight, Freeman probably could have started and did a better job without knowing the playbook yet.
      Of course we aren’t winning many games with this defense. . .

      • I sure crapped the bed on that one Fran. I thought they would at least show up though. Some heads need to roll, that was as pathetic as it gets and at home no less.

        • Johnny, dunno about you, but I think with we have some talent on this team, and my eye tends to settle on the coaching as being questionable.

          I’m guessing Coach disagrees with me.

          • Not sure what coach thinks (But he is a deep thinker, so I’m sure he’s thinking right NOW)
            But I absolutely agree with you; This coaching staff is pathetic.

          • “Talent” is a very interesting term, Tomb, and I believe it goes beyond the physical aspect we often reference, to the mental and attitudinal traits of an athlete. AD is not only physically talented, but his attitude is a huge part of what makes him the talent known by everyone around the league. I question that in a significant number of our Vikings players. There are some mental pieces to our performance yesterday that cause me as much concern as do the physical shortcomings, maybe even more so.

            From the fans perspectives, its hard to know the whole story about this team. Do some players need a wake-up call like yesterday? Will it matter to some? Does this alert the coaching staff to the fact that greater attention to detail is needed? I know people may tire of hearing about the “good old days”, but stars like Paul Krause, Mick Tinglehoff, Grady Alderman, Dave Osborne and Jeff Siemon were not necessarily of the utmost physical ability, but they were very football smart, and just plain did not make a lot of mental mistakes. Paul Krause is in the Hall of Fame, and Mick Tinglehoff should be, because of their football intelligence.

            The timing and nature of our penalties, the angles and effort on tackling and blocking, the inability to anticipate and understand what is happening on a play, all combine to make me ask if people like Cook, Sanford, Kalil, Robinson and Henderson are even as “talented” as they are made out to be. Whether its coaching or talent, the burden is on Leslie & Co. to figure this thing out and take action. There has been far too much attention paid to the QB position while so many other issues need to be addressed. I suspect many of those issues are between the ears.

            We are fooling ourselves if we think that all we need is Josh Freeman to turn this thing around. Frankly, things will not look much different with him than with the other two unless some other areas improve.

              • Tough call, krug, but don’t want to be accused of backing away from such a question as this. I would settle on a 5 for Leslie and a 7 for Spielman, as follows:
                Leslie Frazier is a quality and principled coach, and I firmly believe that leads to success. He has done a good job of overseeing the team, and I am, or at least, was, of the belief that he had the team in hand, and was marching them upwards. I am disappointed that he is overseeing a team of such weakness on defense, given his background. He was not handed the best of situations, including that of QB, but he needs to show he can lead the team out of this. Remember, he led them to the playoffs in his first full year, so some rope has to be allowed here, as this is really the first time in over a year that his team has not been in a position to win the game at hand.
                Rick Spielman has brought in some good players, drafted what we all believed were some other good players, and moved along those who seemed to have no future. It has appeared that he has improved the roster since taking over. I think he knows what he’s doing, but in the absence of not having even won a playoff game, I can’t say his apparent good moves have elevated him any higher than a 7.
                Looking forward to the reaction…

                • Coach…..thanks for your answer…..bout what I’d say…..maybe a little high on GM but time will tell…..guess this season will dictate Frazier’s future, because I don’t believe a 4-5 rating at season’s end would get Les a new contract…..you are a patient fan…

                • Close, but not exact. Luckily, I’ll give you partial credit for showing your work. For Frazier, it’s simply his winning pct. rounded off, I believe that gives him a 4, not a 5. Spielman’s 7 is accurate. I’d share the mathematical workup, but it’s far too complex to deploy here.

                • Wow, I’m surprised at your low ranking of Coach Frazier. I do agree however.
                  There can be no question about the fact that he is a quality Man and very principled.
                  But it didn’t lead to success.
                  Remember a couple years ago, just after Coach Frazier took over and I made the comment that I’d just once like to see him get a bit mad, throw his hat down, yell at a player, kick some dirt on a Ref? SOMETHING, but gad zooks man, let these guys know you’re pissed (And CARE!)
                  I really think that a guy, who is in charge, personality bleeds off on those around him and this current team is what we get; “Gotta’ get smarter, gotta’ play better” (Which it seems Coach Frazier says at every Press conference, at the end of every defeat)

                  I just can’t see him leading this team out of this. Just too many problems in ALL facets of the team.

                  Spielman, I really don’t know which way to go. Made some good moves, made some bad ones. He’s not near as important to the team and their chance to become a Champion as the Head Coach.
                  But truthfully, I wouldn’t mind seeing them both go.

        • I was watching the game via an internet site, which sucks but this was the first time I turned off the game before it was over and went out and raked leaves, in over 50 years!
          That’s how bad this team, front office and coaching staff sucks.

  3. What kind of taunting can you do when you’re playing on a defense getting owned by one of the lowest scoring teams in the league? The Panthers know how to play defense. We do not.

    • At least we didn’t see Jared raising his right arm up, motioning the crowd to make noise, today. Did you notice that? I think Jared also knew, what’s the point?

      • The dome was pretty quiet except the boos. It was loud to start the game but that didn’t last very long and I think you’re right Jared knew it.

  4. This defensive effort today has been beyond pathetic, and really, the entire team outside of Adrian Peterson should be absolutely embarrassed by this performance. When your star player decides he’s going to play despite such a personal tragedy and everyone else comes out and craps the bed like this today… Between the bye week and what I would expect to be some serious inspiration seeing Peterson come out to play today I never would have expected the team to play this poorly. What a disappointing display.

  5. Well, that was beyond ugly. Perhaps vulgar?

    I had to watch at the local watering hole, so I couldn’t ‘hear’ the game, and sort of quit watching after awhile.

    There a viable reason AD only had 10 carries?

    • I would say the defense allowing multiple 10+ play drives that ate up most of the clock had a lot to do with AD’s 10 carries. He also basically didn’t play in the 4th quarter.

  6. This is what I hate about Vikings fans, They boo every thing Ponder does so they can get Cassel, but when they get Cassel is worse then Ponder, but they don’t boo him. It has happened for years. I remember way back to the Tommy C Kramer and Wade Willson days, Vikings fans have been this way. Its like the Vikings fan thing the QB on the bench is the next great star. Ponder would have been better today then Cassel, but thanks to the fans we didn’t get to find out.

    • That’s true, Vikings fans are the ONLY fans who do that, right? No other team has has ever had to deal with that.

      WTFVikes, I have to assume you are a younger guy. I don’t mean that as an insult, I’m just sayin’, this is SOP for any team. Hell, just today, Texans fans were literally cheering Schaub’s injury.

      It’s the nature of the beast.

      • 46 Tomb. Started watching Vikings that I can remember when I was 6. I watched many a heatbreak with Vikings. I saw the wrong way touchdown live. Two or three super bowl losses. My dad was a Packer fan. He tried to get me to support the Broncos in the late 70’s. But I stuck with the Vikings.

        • Off of what, a 1-1 record? Wouldn’t that make me what you just lamented, an ad hominem fan? I think our issues are much larger than QB.

          In any case, how Cassell does has no bearing on all the chances Ponder has had to establish himself as our franchise QB.

          ..and FYI, I don’t hate Ponder as a person.

          • Cassel didn’t have anything to do with how the defense had there butts handed to them today. He took a big shot on that first pick and then Sanford had a chance to give us the ball right back on the next play and dropped an easy pick like we’ve seen him do multiple times before. That dropped pick just set the tone for the entire game in my opinion. We all know Cassel isn’t the long term answer here, he’s just holding the spot while Freeman gets ready.

  7. I had hopes for a .500 season….now we can only hope for the draft. You know it’s bad when Mr. ABV starts the lawnmower at halftime and we pick up leaves instead of laboring through the 2nd half. They look so unprepared…it would be Keystone Copish….if it weren’t so painful. Might be the lowest ratings ever for MNF next week…yikes! Try to have a good week, Vikes fans.

  8. I think Frazier and company should be fired this week. Clean house. Then bring Freeman. I don’t if the Vikings have to hire somebody off the street.

  9. saw a post that, as HC, frazier has lost all three games after the bye, and i think they were all pretty bad. doesn’t look good for ‘ol les

    we had nothing up front on both sides of the ball. what happened since last year? just wow, is all i can say about our lines

    can we rescind loadholt’s contract? freeman might be looking for a rescission clause in his contract, and espn surely would like to rescind their next MNF game

    don’t think that it can’t get worse, either. the gnats could easily get their first win monday and sour freeman’s first start, and how about if musgrave was named the new interim head coach

  10. Can we redo the draft last year also and Speilman the drat genius? Matt Kalil is looking for somebody to block and the defensive player runs right by him. Seen it a few times. Robinson keeps getting burnt. Punter is kicking off didn’t here why.

    • Locke was kicking off because Walsh had a bad hammy. If anything on that, you have to give Spielman credit for selecting a punter who could kick off well in a pinch when stuff like this happens.

  11. I have to say at this juncture, I’m not really sure what’s to blame for a game like today. Nothing changes my ongoing belief that our defensive issues are much greater than our offensive issues. Yes, we only scored three, but the amount of time that Carolina was allowed to be on the field was a factor in that. Just inexcusable.

    Is it coaching? Some blame has to lie there, no question. The first defensive drive was huge. A dropped interception on the first play, Jared Allen letting Newton get outside on 3rd and 2. Cook holding on 3rd and 9. I’m not sure that’s coaching – these are professional FB players, which is why I said on here early in the game that I feel we have intelligence issues on defense. Watching the angles and the tackling, very poor… I want Marcus Sherels back on the field. At least the man knows how to track down a runner and tackle him. I’ll say it again, who the QB is will only matter once we have a respectable defense, which we don’t currently have.

    I do think this is a very distracted team right now. The new QB triangle, Adrian’s tragedy, contract talks on the defensive line. We looked very unfocused today. That will cost you in the NFL.

    • I agree with you at this point coach. This defense is a complete joke. It’s funny because this is probably the worst game the offense has played all season but the long drives and missed opportunities to create turnovers are just unacceptable to me. I have pointed at the offense putting the defense in bad positions before, today it was the opposite. When your a run based offense the defense can’t keep allowing the opponent to go on 10+ play drives that eat 6-8 minutes off the clock. You can’t drop interceptions that hit you in the stomach. The coaches have to be accountable though. That stat on Frazier getting not just beat, but frick’n killed coming off a bye week is a huge black mark on him. A team cannot look this unprepared coming off a bye. There were distractions, but come on. Peterson stepping on that field should have made every one of those guys step up their level of play.

  12. I think it was wise to get AD off the field as early as they did today. Nothing for the man to prove with all he’s been through. Take care, Adrian.

  13. let’s not be so negative….we still have a pretty good chance…..currently, we’re sitting somewhere between the 5th and 7th pick……soon we’ll be in the top 5…..and then, as long as we don’t lose faith in the inabilities of our coaching staff and GM, we could still end up with the number one pick…..so hang in there, fans…..don’t give up…keep the faith…..we can still make this thing happen…..I choose to be positive….GO VIKES!

  14. Love Frazier’s statement that he can’t catch the interception for the player when he’s the one putting that player on the field despite the fact that the only part of that player’s game that is consistent is him dropping interceptions. Interesting he picked this week to start pointing at the players. He must be feeling some heat.

Leave a Reply